Discussion:
AOC is the Democrats' best shot against Trump in 2024
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Jimmy K
2024-01-21 10:01:41 UTC
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When Barack Obama came out of nowhere to win his Senate seat in 2004, it
almost felt preordained. As if he was the person we had been waiting for
to breathe fresh air into the Democratic Party.

Flash forward to 2018, and the meteoric rise of a 29-year-old bartender
from Queens feels eerily similar. She has been unafraid, unapologetic and
unwilling to bend to the will of Washington. She is a force to be reckoned
with, and in 2024 Democrats are going to need her force to reckon with
Republicans.

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) is less of a personality and more
of a movement. Yes, the smart, photogenic congresswoman is the face of the
rising progressive movement, but she is also the future of the Democratic
Party. AOC has cultivated a following beyond politics. She’s an influencer
in its purest form. Her ability to relate to her supporters and allow them
a glimpse into her private life is a blueprint for Democrats trying to act
less like mannequins and more like humans.

She’s the voice of a movement that began after the banks were bailed out
by the government, while homeowners were left to default. The simplicity
with which she talks about everyday struggles hints that she’s not just a
persona for consumption. She isn’t beholden to corporations, is a
prodigious small-dollar fundraiser, and could out-Trump Trump like no
other politician has been able to.

If Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is the Godfather, Ocasio-Cartez is Michael
Corleone. As the architect of Medicare for All, a $15 minimum wage and
numerous other programs that are now mainstream, Bernie’s place in history
has already been solidified. While Sanders may disagree with some of the
progressives in his caucus, his worth carries major weight. Bernie passing
the torch to AOC and recruiting her to run for president would be bold and
would strengthen and solidify her base of supporters before she even gets
out of the gate.

AOC wields a superpower that is rarely found in Washington: She isn’t
afraid to lose. Her 2018 victory wasn’t just historic, it was shocking,
and felt predestined — much like when we first saw a brilliant speaker
with a funny name and big ears remind us that through hope and change we
could put our country on a new course.

AOC has the ability to tell the story of her generation. She’s Barack
Obama if Barack Obama was an actual progressive. I love Obama, but he was
a moderate who sounded like a progressive.

Ocasio-Cortez represents the possibilities and opportunities that make our
country great. Where else could a 29-year-old bartender upset a political
heavyweight and become a symbol for her generation? AOC was never
supposed to win her race. Few gave her a chance, but a funny thing
happened: Voters loved her honesty, youth and humble beginnings. Voters
were sick of career politicians who rarely came back to their districts.
So they voted Joe Crowley out and AOC in. That wasn’t luck, that was fate.
In a Democratic Party that looks more like a Golden Girls spin-off than a
reflection of our rich diversity, AOC has become the face of a generation.

It would have been easy for her to walk into Congress and hire nothing but
communications staff. It would have been easy for her to sell out and do
the cash grab. She could have publicly made Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and
Charles Schumer’s (D-N.Y.) lives a living hell just to show off for her
supporters.

Instead, she did her homework and tried to fly under the radar while
learning the nuances of Congress and the levers of power that run it. She
did exactly what you would want your number one draft pick to do: She
prepared for the moment. Her tough questioning of corporations and
industry leaders has been a viral hit that adds to her credentials. AOC
rarely backs down from a fight.

The congresswoman holds no punches when it comes to Sens. Joe Manchin (D-
W.Va.) and Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.). Echoing my previous calls for Sinema
to face a primary challenge, AOC publicly declared that she “should be”
primaried and said this of Manchin:

“This idea that one person gets to go on television and provide weak
arguments as to why they are blocking the basic civil rights of our
Americans, and journalists don’t push back, and our party leadership
doesn’t push back, and the president doesn’t push back forcefully — that
makes me mad.”

A new CNN poll finds that 75 percent of Democratic and Democratic-leaning
voters want the party to nominate someone other than President Biden in
2024. Should President Biden announce that he will not seek a second term,
AOC would represent the bridge that he hoped to create. Much like Barack
Obama talked about his student loan debt, AOC can uniquely talk about the
struggles of a forgotten generation waiting for someone to speak up for
them.

If Jan. 6 was a dry run for what we’ll see in 2024, we need an
inspirational and generational candidate to fight back. Democrats need AOC
to meet this historic moment.

The country needs a fresh start. We need someone who can inspire us but
also look to heal some of our wounds. Most importantly, the country needs
a president who never wanted to be president. I don’t necessarily agree
with everything the congresswoman believes, that’s called healthy
dialogue. But what I believe is that when no one is looking, she’d do
what’s right for the country, not what’s right for her bank account.

There is no denying that AOC would boost GOP turnout as a result of
coverage on right wing networks built to scare elderly white voters. But
she would electrify the party’s base, turn out the youth at record levels
and bring the party together by acknowledging the threat posed by electing
Trump Republicans.

In the age of social media and quick sound bites, no Democrat is more
prepared to embarrass a bully like Donald Trump or Florida governor Ron
DeSantis and return some chutzpah to the Democratic Party. There will be
no going high when they go low anymore. It appears the only rule is there
are no rules, and AOC is ready to enter the cage and fight for our
democracy.

If anyone is prepared to unify the Democratic Party and put the focus back
on the working class, it’s AOC. Republicans laugh, Democrats fawn, but if
voters trust her, we could finally be looking at the first woman
president.

It’s not just Democrats that need Ocasio-Cortez to electrify a nation and
ensure Trump or DeSantis doesn’t find his way into the White House. We all
need a leader who knows the price of gas, can tell you the cost of milk
and still remembers trying to figure out how she could keep the lights on.

America doesn’t belong to us, it belongs to the generations that will come
after us. It is our obligation, in the face of fascism to put up a
candidate who isn’t just different than the Republicans, but is disgusted
by Republicans and prepared to say why.

There will never be another Barack Obama, but I have a feeling we’ll be
saying the same about AOC. When opportunity meets preparation and history
creates the moment, the cream of the crop always rises, leaving everyone
else behind.

Democrats want a fighter, not a politician. They want someone who punches
back and isn’t afraid to say what they mean.

Michael Starr Hopkins is a founding partner at Northern Starr Strategies.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3583238-aoc-is-the-democrats-best-
shot-against-trump-in-2024/
Governor Swill
2024-01-26 01:45:40 UTC
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Post by Jimmy K
When Barack Obama came out of nowhere to win his Senate seat in 2004, it
almost felt preordained. As if he was the person we had been waiting for
to breathe fresh air into the Democratic Party.
Flash forward to 2018, and the meteoric rise of a 29-year-old bartender
from Queens feels eerily similar. She has been unafraid, unapologetic and
unwilling to bend to the will of Washington. She is a force to be reckoned
with, and in 2024 Democrats are going to need her force to reckon with
Republicans.
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) is less of a personality and more
of a movement. Yes, the smart, photogenic congresswoman is the face of the
rising progressive movement, but she is also the future of the Democratic
Party. AOC has cultivated a following beyond politics. She’s an influencer
in its purest form. Her ability to relate to her supporters and allow them
a glimpse into her private life is a blueprint for Democrats trying to act
less like mannequins and more like humans.
She’s the voice of a movement that began after the banks were bailed out
by the government, while homeowners were left to default. The simplicity
with which she talks about everyday struggles hints that she’s not just a
persona for consumption. She isn’t beholden to corporations, is a
prodigious small-dollar fundraiser, and could out-Trump Trump like no
other politician has been able to.
If Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is the Godfather, Ocasio-Cartez is Michael
Corleone. As the architect of Medicare for All, a $15 minimum wage and
numerous other programs that are now mainstream, Bernie’s place in history
has already been solidified. While Sanders may disagree with some of the
progressives in his caucus, his worth carries major weight. Bernie passing
the torch to AOC and recruiting her to run for president would be bold and
would strengthen and solidify her base of supporters before she even gets
out of the gate.
AOC wields a superpower that is rarely found in Washington: She isn’t
afraid to lose. Her 2018 victory wasn’t just historic, it was shocking,
and felt predestined — much like when we first saw a brilliant speaker
with a funny name and big ears remind us that through hope and change we
could put our country on a new course.
AOC has the ability to tell the story of her generation. She’s Barack
Obama if Barack Obama was an actual progressive. I love Obama, but he was
a moderate who sounded like a progressive.
Ocasio-Cortez represents the possibilities and opportunities that make our
country great. Where else could a 29-year-old bartender upset a political
heavyweight and become a symbol for her generation? AOC was never
supposed to win her race. Few gave her a chance, but a funny thing
happened: Voters loved her honesty, youth and humble beginnings. Voters
were sick of career politicians who rarely came back to their districts.
So they voted Joe Crowley out and AOC in. That wasn’t luck, that was fate.
In a Democratic Party that looks more like a Golden Girls spin-off than a
reflection of our rich diversity, AOC has become the face of a generation.
It would have been easy for her to walk into Congress and hire nothing but
communications staff. It would have been easy for her to sell out and do
the cash grab. She could have publicly made Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and
Charles Schumer’s (D-N.Y.) lives a living hell just to show off for her
supporters.
Instead, she did her homework and tried to fly under the radar while
learning the nuances of Congress and the levers of power that run it. She
did exactly what you would want your number one draft pick to do: She
prepared for the moment. Her tough questioning of corporations and
industry leaders has been a viral hit that adds to her credentials. AOC
rarely backs down from a fight.
The congresswoman holds no punches when it comes to Sens. Joe Manchin (D-
W.Va.) and Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.). Echoing my previous calls for Sinema
to face a primary challenge, AOC publicly declared that she “should be”
“This idea that one person gets to go on television and provide weak
arguments as to why they are blocking the basic civil rights of our
Americans, and journalists don’t push back, and our party leadership
doesn’t push back, and the president doesn’t push back forcefully — that
makes me mad.”
A new CNN poll finds that 75 percent of Democratic and Democratic-leaning
voters want the party to nominate someone other than President Biden in
2024. Should President Biden announce that he will not seek a second term,
AOC would represent the bridge that he hoped to create. Much like Barack
Obama talked about his student loan debt, AOC can uniquely talk about the
struggles of a forgotten generation waiting for someone to speak up for
them.
If Jan. 6 was a dry run for what we’ll see in 2024, we need an
inspirational and generational candidate to fight back. Democrats need AOC
to meet this historic moment.
The country needs a fresh start. We need someone who can inspire us but
also look to heal some of our wounds. Most importantly, the country needs
a president who never wanted to be president. I don’t necessarily agree
with everything the congresswoman believes, that’s called healthy
dialogue. But what I believe is that when no one is looking, she’d do
what’s right for the country, not what’s right for her bank account.
There is no denying that AOC would boost GOP turnout as a result of
coverage on right wing networks built to scare elderly white voters. But
she would electrify the party’s base, turn out the youth at record levels
and bring the party together by acknowledging the threat posed by electing
Trump Republicans.
In the age of social media and quick sound bites, no Democrat is more
prepared to embarrass a bully like Donald Trump or Florida governor Ron
DeSantis and return some chutzpah to the Democratic Party. There will be
no going high when they go low anymore. It appears the only rule is there
are no rules, and AOC is ready to enter the cage and fight for our
democracy.
If anyone is prepared to unify the Democratic Party and put the focus back
on the working class, it’s AOC. Republicans laugh, Democrats fawn, but if
voters trust her, we could finally be looking at the first woman
president.
It’s not just Democrats that need Ocasio-Cortez to electrify a nation and
ensure Trump or DeSantis doesn’t find his way into the White House. We all
need a leader who knows the price of gas, can tell you the cost of milk
and still remembers trying to figure out how she could keep the lights on.
America doesn’t belong to us, it belongs to the generations that will come
after us. It is our obligation, in the face of fascism to put up a
candidate who isn’t just different than the Republicans, but is disgusted
by Republicans and prepared to say why.
There will never be another Barack Obama, but I have a feeling we’ll be
saying the same about AOC. When opportunity meets preparation and history
creates the moment, the cream of the crop always rises, leaving everyone
else behind.
Democrats want a fighter, not a politician. They want someone who punches
back and isn’t afraid to say what they mean.
Michael Starr Hopkins is a founding partner at Northern Starr Strategies.
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3583238-aoc-is-the-democrats-best-
shot-against-trump-in-2024/
She has my vote: https://mrdeepfakes.com/video/6949/aoc-blowjob
Governor Swill
2024-01-26 03:58:43 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
Post by Jimmy K
When Barack Obama came out of nowhere to win his Senate seat in 2004, it
almost felt preordained. As if he was the person we had been waiting for
to breathe fresh air into the Democratic Party.
<snip>
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Jimmy K
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3583238-aoc-is-the-democrats-best-
shot-against-trump-in-2024/
She has my vote: https://mrdeepfakes.com/video/6949/aoc-blowjob
Not my post. AOC is way too left wing for my tastes.

Swill
--
A Republican making sense:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/10/15/sotu-crenshaw-full.cnn

It's really hard to screw up America.
A lot of people have been trying for well over 250 years
but we're still on top. - Dan Crenshaw (R) Texas

GO TRUMP! Go farther . . . FARTHER . . . I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

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NoBody
2024-01-26 06:15:52 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Jimmy K
When Barack Obama came out of nowhere to win his Senate seat in 2004, it
almost felt preordained. As if he was the person we had been waiting for
to breathe fresh air into the Democratic Party.
<snip>
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Jimmy K
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3583238-aoc-is-the-democrats-best-
shot-against-trump-in-2024/
She has my vote: https://mrdeepfakes.com/video/6949/aoc-blowjob
Not my post. AOC is way too left wing for my tastes.
She's even more too left-wing for my tastes. However, I think she would make a
formidable candidate — not this year, but maybe in four or eight.

It never ceases to amaze me the way right-wingnuts — knuckle-dragging neo-Nazis
— continue to underestimate her. Have you seen her in committee meetings tearing
a hostile witness to shreds, or in press conference interviews? She's brilliant.
There is not a single substantive policy position of hers that I support — not
"green new deal," not student loan forgiveness, literally nothing — but when you
see her shredding shredding the Republiscum/QAnon opposition on their outrageous
criminal conduct on congressional committees, she's absolutely devastating — a
true force of nature.

Keep underestimating her, Trumpswabs. You'll live to regret it...some of you,
anyway — the ones who don't get mowed down in your next insurrection.
pothead
2024-01-26 22:01:18 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Jimmy K
When Barack Obama came out of nowhere to win his Senate seat in 2004, it
almost felt preordained. As if he was the person we had been waiting for
to breathe fresh air into the Democratic Party.
<snip>
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Jimmy K
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3583238-aoc-is-the-democrats-best-
shot-against-trump-in-2024/
She has my vote: https://mrdeepfakes.com/video/6949/aoc-blowjob
Not my post. AOC is way too left wing for my tastes.
Swill
Same here but people like her, age wise, should be the future of government instead old farts like
McConnell, Schumer and so forth. What do these people know about the up coming younger generation?
Absolutely nothing.
--
pothead
Tommy Chong For President 2024.
Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
Impeach Joe Biden 2022.
Mike Colangelo
2024-01-27 02:00:33 UTC
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Post by pothead
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Jimmy K
When Barack Obama came out of nowhere to win his Senate seat in 2004, it
almost felt preordained. As if he was the person we had been waiting for
to breathe fresh air into the Democratic Party.
<snip>
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Jimmy K
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3583238-aoc-is-the-democrats-best-
shot-against-trump-in-2024/
She has my vote: https://mrdeepfakes.com/video/6949/aoc-blowjob
Not my post. AOC is way too left wing for my tastes.
Swill
Same here but people like her, age wise, should be the future of government instead old farts like
McConnell, Schumer and so forth. What do these people know about the up coming younger generation?
Absolutely nothing.
Ocasio-Cortez will hit the bare minimum age for president, 35, in October.

A constitutional amendment is needed to raise the minimum age to at least 45,
preferably 50. People younger than that typically don't have the seasoning and
temperament needed.
pothead
2024-01-27 13:44:08 UTC
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Post by Mike Colangelo
Post by pothead
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Jimmy K
When Barack Obama came out of nowhere to win his Senate seat in 2004, it
almost felt preordained. As if he was the person we had been waiting for
to breathe fresh air into the Democratic Party.
<snip>
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Jimmy K
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3583238-aoc-is-the-democrats-best-
shot-against-trump-in-2024/
She has my vote: https://mrdeepfakes.com/video/6949/aoc-blowjob
Not my post. AOC is way too left wing for my tastes.
Swill
Same here but people like her, age wise, should be the future of government instead old farts like
McConnell, Schumer and so forth. What do these people know about the up coming younger generation?
Absolutely nothing.
Ocasio-Cortez will hit the bare minimum age for president, 35, in October.
A constitutional amendment is needed to raise the minimum age to at least 45,
preferably 50. People younger than that typically don't have the seasoning and
temperament needed.
True statement.
It takes time to develop a person to the point where they can function effectively as POTUS.
There are exceptions in history but in general with experience comes wisdom.
My guess is that AOC will join a cable TV network and start making 7 figures.
--
pothead
Tommy Chong For President 2024.
Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
Impeach Joe Biden 2022.
Governor Swill
2024-01-27 11:16:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by pothead
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Jimmy K
When Barack Obama came out of nowhere to win his Senate seat in 2004, it
almost felt preordained. As if he was the person we had been waiting for
to breathe fresh air into the Democratic Party.
<snip>
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Jimmy K
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3583238-aoc-is-the-democrats-best-
shot-against-trump-in-2024/
She has my vote: https://mrdeepfakes.com/video/6949/aoc-blowjob
Not my post. AOC is way too left wing for my tastes.
Swill
Same here but people like her, age wise, should be the future of government instead old farts like
McConnell, Schumer and so forth. What do these people know about the up coming younger generation?
Absolutely nothing.
Agreed. That includes Trump and Biden in the 'so forth'.

Swill
--
A Republican making sense:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/10/15/sotu-crenshaw-full.cnn

It's really hard to screw up America.
A lot of people have been trying for well over 250 years
but we're still on top. - Dan Crenshaw (R) Texas

GO TRUMP! Go farther . . . FARTHER . . . I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
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pothead
2024-01-27 13:45:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Jimmy K
When Barack Obama came out of nowhere to win his Senate seat in 2004, it
almost felt preordained. As if he was the person we had been waiting for
to breathe fresh air into the Democratic Party.
<snip>
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Jimmy K
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3583238-aoc-is-the-democrats-best-
shot-against-trump-in-2024/
She has my vote: https://mrdeepfakes.com/video/6949/aoc-blowjob
Not my post. AOC is way too left wing for my tastes.
Swill
Same here but people like her, age wise, should be the future of government instead old farts like
McConnell, Schumer and so forth. What do these people know about the up coming younger generation?
Absolutely nothing.
Agreed. That includes Trump and Biden in the 'so forth'.
Swill
It does which is why I am saddened that Trump v Biden is the best we can come up with.
Something has to change.
--
pothead
Tommy Chong For President 2024.
Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
Impeach Joe Biden 2022.
Governor Swill
2024-01-27 20:17:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by pothead
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Jimmy K
When Barack Obama came out of nowhere to win his Senate seat in 2004, it
almost felt preordained. As if he was the person we had been waiting for
to breathe fresh air into the Democratic Party.
<snip>
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Jimmy K
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3583238-aoc-is-the-democrats-best-
shot-against-trump-in-2024/
She has my vote: https://mrdeepfakes.com/video/6949/aoc-blowjob
Not my post. AOC is way too left wing for my tastes.
Swill
Same here but people like her, age wise, should be the future of government instead old farts like
McConnell, Schumer and so forth. What do these people know about the up coming younger generation?
Absolutely nothing.
Agreed. That includes Trump and Biden in the 'so forth'.
Swill
It does which is why I am saddened that Trump v Biden is the best we can come up with.
Something has to change.
Yeah, it does. Stop supporting the two of them for President.

Swill
--
A Republican making sense:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/10/15/sotu-crenshaw-full.cnn

It's really hard to screw up America.
A lot of people have been trying for well over 250 years
but we're still on top. - Dan Crenshaw (R) Texas

GO TRUMP! Go farther . . . FARTHER . . . I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>
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